Public Accounts Committee

 

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 3 - Senedd

 

 

 

Meeting date:

Monday, 12 November 2012

 

 

 

Meeting time:

14:00 - 16:30

 

 

 

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Concise Minutes:

 

 

 

Assembly Members:

 

Darren Millar (Chair)

Mohammad Asghar

Mike Hedges

Julie Morgan

Gwyn Price

Jenny Rathbone

Aled Roberts

Jocelyn Davies

 

 

 

 

 

Witnesses:

 

David Sissling, Welsh Government

Dr Jean White, Welsh Government

Claire Foster, All Wales Maternity Services Implementation Group

McGrath, Cwm Taf Local Health Board

Roberts, Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board

Williams, Cwm Taf Local Health Board

 

 

 

 

 

Committee Staff:

 

 

 

 

 

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1.  Introductions, apologies and substitutions

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members and members of the public to the meeting

 

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2.  Maternity Services in Wales - Evidence from the Welsh Government and the Co-Chairs of the All Wales Implementation Services Group

2.1 The Committee took evidence from the Welsh Government and the Co-Chairs of the All Wales Maternity Services Implementation Group. In particular, Members asked the witnesses about:

 

·         The strategic framework for maternity services in Wales

·         Staffing levels and training

·         The provision of neonatal services

·         Caesarean section rates

·         A review of the breastfeeding programme in Wales

 

Action points:

 

2.2 The Welsh Government and the Co-Chairs of the All Wales Maternity Services Implementation Group agreed to provide:

 

·         Further information on how a measurement of ‘confident and knowledgeable parents’ would be made, following appropriate discussions;

·         Data highlighting the number of practitioners needing to move to the RCOG training tool method;

·         Further information on the recruitment of neonatologists in Wales including details on how the trend in the reduction of neonatologists is being addressed;

·         A link to research conducted by Public Health Wales on the relationship between BMI, pregnancy and caesarean rates;

·         Further information on the number of agency staff used in midwifery;

·         A timescale for the rollout of electronic foetal heart rate monitoring for different Local Health Boards;

·         Further information on the progress made by Local Health Boards in implementing the caesarean toolkit.

 

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3.  Maternity Services in Wales - Evidence from Local Health Boards

6.1 The Committee took evidence from Cwm Taf and Abertawe Bro Morgannwg Health Boards. In particular, Members asked the witnesses about:

 

·         The strategic framework for maternity services in Wales;

·         Staffing levels and training;

·         The provision of neonatal care;

·         Breastfeeding; and

·         Caesarean section rates

 

Action points:

 

Cwm Taf Health board agreed to provide:

 

·         Clarity on the current rate at which women have had first contact with a medical professional (whether they are a GP or a midwife) before the tenth week of their pregnancy.

·         Information on the evaluation of the trial co-location of low and higher risk delivery units.

·         Information on their month-to-month caesarean section rates

 

Abertawe Bro Morgannwg Health Board agreed to provide:

 

·         Information on their month-to-month caesarean section rates

·         Information on its position in terms of meeting recommended levels of medical and nurse staffing, and meeting the 90:10 ration of qualified to unqualified

·         Information on the development of peer-to-peer support groups

 

 

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4.  Papers to note

3.1 The Committee noted:

 

·         The minutes of the previous committee meeting; and

·         Correspondence received from the Auditor General for Wales on issues arising from the Minister for Finance’s letter regarding the Public Audit (Wales) Bill (Paper 2).

 

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5.  Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Item 7

 

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6.  Maternity Services in Wales - Members' consideration of evidence

7.1 The Committee discussed key issues and themes emerging from the evidence they had heard around Maternity Services in Wales.

 

7.2 The Committee agreed to produce a report of its short inquiry into Maternity Services in Wales.

 

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